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Hugh Carpenter

Hugh Carpenter

Male Abt 1169 - Yes, date unknown    Has more than 100 ancestors but no descendants in this family tree.

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  • Name Hugh Carpenter 
    Birth Abt 1169  N.Cambridge, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Death Yes, date unknown 
    Siblings 4 Siblings 
    Person ID I176563  Geneagraphie
    Last Modified 25 Nov 2000 

    Father Ralph Carpenter,   b. Abt 1135, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Yes, date unknown 
    Family ID F71167  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • He is believed to be the descendant of William the Carpenter, b. abt 1098.
      Found in the IGI as born abt 1169 in N,C,England.

      !IS the following data for this Hugh Carpenter descendants?
      E-MAIL: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 From: "Bruce E. Carpenter"
      Three Carpenter knights appear in the English historical record at
      approximately the same time. The following hopes to shed some light on this.
      The three knights were Hugh le Carpenter who served the king's brother John
      of Cornwall, John le Carpenter who served the Seneschal of Gascony, John St.
      John, and the John Carpenter who is reputed to have attended parliament from
      Liskeard, Cornwall in 1323. For this last Carpenter I have not seen this
      actual historical record (if it exists) due to the lack of historical
      parliament material in my library. Researchers in the 1800s (Edward
      Carpenter) claimed this individual existed and I will provisionally accept
      this claim. I have evidence now that points to connections to the kingdom of
      Gascony, an English possession in the south of France, for all three
      individuals.
      For Hugh le Carpenter we have good documentation (Calendar of
      Inquisitions, Edward III, no. 11 and no. 187) concerning his daughter Alice
      who had title to her father's lands in Salop by right of his knight service
      to Margaret de Cornwall's deceased husband. The Earl of Cornwall had died in
      1336. The King and his brother were actively engaged in a war with the Scots
      as this juncture. Among their followers were knights and others connected to
      Gascony. Hugh le Carpenter himself had died in 1350 according to the same
      disposition. In 1319 a France based merchant, Helmyng de Osenbrugge, filed a
      complaint against Hugh le Carpenter for boarding is ship and seizing his
      cargo (Patent Rolls, May 24, 1319). This case, and many others exactly like
      it, shows the open conflict and hostility that raged between commercial
      interests of France and Gascony. Carpenters were involved in many of them.
      Are Hugh the knight and Hugh the cargo-taker the same?
      Another interesting case of exactly the same nature occurred next door
      to Kiskeard in Cornwall, for a John le Carpenter in Lostwithiel, Cornwall,
      in 1336. Another merchant with French ties, Richard Scotter of Hok, had his
      ship boarded and cargo confiscated by John le Carpenter and friends (Patent
      Rolls, June 16, 1336). The ports of Cornwall were extremely important
      destinations in the Gascon trade for England. Scotter's ship, "le Cog Johan"
      , entered his Cornwall port due to a storm. He had come from Brittany. Are
      John the knight and John the cargo taker the same?
      The third knight, John le Carpenter, of Staughton St.John in Oxfordshire,
      died in the very late 1330s. His knight service was to John St. John, the
      King's Seneshal to Gascony. His connections to Gascony need no comment. He
      doubtless went back and forth to Gascony many times with John St. John on
      the King's business.
      The point I am trying to make here is that while the Carpenter knights
      were rendering service to English causes, they seem to have engaged in the
      open conflict with French interests that was characteristic of the period.
      The Carpenters were already a leading Gascon family from the 1250s on and
      are the best-documented Carpenter family of the Middle Ages. They dealt in
      cloth and wine. One of their members, Ellis Carpenter, was a special agent
      of the English crown. The real history of the English Carpenters is
      intimately connected to the kingdom of Gascony. France finally swallowed up
      the kingdom about 1450. At this time many wealthy Gascon refugees settled in
      the Bay of Bristol area. I think research would point to Gascon Carpentiers
      to have been among their number.
      Bruce Carpenter
      >
      > Knight Hugh Carpenter served the Barons
      > of Burford in Shropshire. Geoffrey de Cornwall
      > was the husband of Margaret Mortimer in the introduced
      > document. The first Baron was the grandson
      > of king John I 'Lackland'.
      > BC



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